Stocks on Chain ? How?

Please be Gentle , my grammar can be harsh

My understanding to the best of my ability. I think jup would have to hold the assets similar to a LP and coordinate with api from a major stock exchange or a stock oracle ( dont know if thats a thing ) picking blue chip stocks first and progressivly working through stocks with potential

Legal aspects, im not sure what licensing but paperwork would be needed( i imagine) and stocks being more regulated will need to CYA and lead to having more of a paper trail (KYC) before being a realistic opportunity

Unless were talking about Speculative stocks and only holding a token that represents the price rather than it being backed by the asset it self, less bullish but could lead into a full exchange on chain over time with fees leading to buying stocks and (in theory) locking them on chain for future LPs.

Im not a coder, legal expert , or day trader
So i could be way off on all of this but its seem possible and im bullish on Jupiters Future !!!

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It is a great idea! I was thinking about it too. The best part of the blockchain is that it is a bank/forex exchange that doesn’t sleep. Why shouldn’t the same apply to stocks too? I believe after the regulatory hurdles, it will all be in the implementation details. I would assume there would be a liquidity problem. With stocks trading only 8 X 5, if there is news over the weekend, blockchain stocks will take a hit. It allows for trading outside of trading hours and therefore the low volume of trading could cause significant losses.

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I agree that stocks onchain is an interesting idea and will happen sooner or later. Especially because you wouldn’t have to off-ramp your money to diversify your assets /w stocks.

The oracle approach that simply tracks prices that you mentioned could work but I think it would be easiest to speak to projects that already did it and learn from their mistakes (e.g., Mirror Protocol, https://twitter.com/mirror_protocol).

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I assume you’re talking about the GUM proposal! If they manage to get the regulatory aspect out of the way for stocks (I think this could be a big hurdle at least initially!), I also think it’s very bullish both for Solana and for Jupiter!

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For the big players, stocks never sleep. That’s only true for retail. fund managers can trade on news over the weekend or after hours by trading on different exchanges or OTC/private markets. A 24-hour on-chain exchange would level the playing field. My question is about IPOs. Would GUM be an interesting environment to essentially IPO - structure a token in a way that would be straightforward to convert into a traditional stock/share instrument? If that was a path it would further disrupt venture/angel investing - I think probably for the better.

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My bet is if Larry Fink thinks and wants to tokenize stock market, therefore it can and most importantly it WILL happen

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Great information, however, I think we would need to take into account how stock market corporate actions would work. For example, stock splits, dividends, mergers and acquisitions, rights issues, contingent value rights (CVRs), spin-offs, etc

Other than that, great idea.

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Lots of legality issues, I think as an industry we need a green light from the SEC before this truly happens. Hopefully with a Trump presidency, it seems unlikely under a Kamala

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yes 100%.

As a law student i can tell you stocks on chain wouldnt be legal in most countries as there are process and proceedures Public companies must follow.

Additionally, they owe a lot of legal duties to their shareholders. Which would in turn require an in depth KYC proceedure.

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Stocks on chain or any RWA first of all needs a chain that has a

  1. Realiable up-time at least for those trading hours (basically if you cover stock exchange from the whole world, you need this service 24/7 anyways).
  2. Low transaction cost
  3. Fast execution
  4. User friendly point of access (site/app)

SOLANA as a chain has proven to be super adaptable just due the fact that its fast and low cost. The uptime in the past has had some hiccups but with adding Firedancer as a second client coming to the chain and if only those 2 clients both work in sync there would be more insurance for the uptime requirements while JUP can definitely be the point of access on the front end for the end user (stock trader, investment institution).

A question that still remains and is probably thought by many devs is seamless bridging/onboarding from web2 to web3.

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Yes, 100% well said.

Solana is the perfect Block chain for this to be possible.

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On chain stocks will occur, its only a matter of time. We just need the big players to push it and the various governments around the world will ok it.

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listening to some podcasts by tradfi/crypto cross over guys it seem like the rails have been being built for the past few years and most tradfi corps are just waiting for a yes from the SEC in the USA

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Yes I agree witth you

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Thank you everyone who commented on post.

I really appreciate everyone in the jup community

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I never heard of “tradfi” until your post. Now I have added a ton of videos to watch on YouTube to learn about it.

TY!!

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Recently I have seen crypto.com mention that this is something coming to their platform and I for one am very excited to see how this goes. Definitely mag7 stuff. Highly doubt dividend yielding stocks will be a big part of this but curious to see how they work out which names will be listed.

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