I hear you and can relate. Apps are always meant to be a marketing driver and disrupt the markets and to some extent obviously create engagement. I can not yet spill all the beans but I think with the tokenomics coming soon, you can understand it better and make an elaborate judgement call if it is for you or not. I generally see similar risks with Apps but also see their potential and think certain aspects that you brought up can be mitigated or “done better” to some extent. I will let you be the judge as soon as it is out.
Tokenomics will come soon and I agree that sustainability in rewards is necessary, I think it is on a good route, while I obviously can not predict the future outcome. I think the utmost attention is put on making the rewards work in best way for user retention, growth and progress.
Ambient Network released a Medium blog post about the AmbiGo! App today:
As of current, the network works based on the existing lineup of hardware that was used prior by PlanetWatch. So fixed certified sensor models from certain manufacturers, no open source or DIY at all. This is based on the past what exactly works now. But things might change in future, where right now I can not elaborate because it is sensitive information. The new storefront will open in early Q4 and “might” bring new sensor models and leading up to that time there “might” be some news around the open source topic but in this moment in my position I can not say a clear yes or no to that specific point.
The current existing and working sensor models are:
(mind you right now there is an onboarding stop until launch on Solana)
Team members:
We have a brilliant leadership team that brings a wealth of experience from DePIN projects like Helium and PlanetWatch, to IoT and enterprise expertise.
Luca Franchi , CEO - Previously led growth at several startups and large corporations in US and Europe (Telefonica, 02 UK, Sky) for enterprise and consumer verticals. Discord .
TJ Rancour , Chief Growth Officer - Former co-founder & President of CalChip Connect, the leading distributor of Helium and DePIN-related devices.
Ivan D’Ettorre , COO - Previously Chief Information & Technology Officer of PlanetWatch and founder of several companies in the telecoms sector.
Kassir Kayani , CTO - Former founder of Hive (Centrica) with over 20 years of experience in the media (Sky), telecommunications (Orange, 3, O2 UK) and tech industry, with a proven track record in strategy and delivery.
Prof. Pratim Biswas , Scientific Advisor - Expert in Aerosol Science and Technology, serving as Dean of the College of Engineering, University of Miami. He is a Professor of Chemical, Environmental and Materials Engineering with a joint appointment at the Rosenstiel School of Marine, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Miami.
Uri Stav, Advisor - Technology, security, and cryptography professional with over 25 years of experience, involved in digital asset and blockchain since 2009. Former Chief Security & Development Officer at the Digital Currency Group (DCG) and subsidiaries.
Been involved with this project since the beginning with 8 sensors, genuinely believe this is the best DePin project on the blockchain. But I’ve always been curious to know…what do you think is more important? Indoor or Outdoor air quality monitoring?
Hey that is a great question and I hope others answer too because what matters is opinion of many over mine, but could not resist the temptation to answer also:
My take is that actually they are super near in the sense that outdoor usually is more representative, bigger regional affect and therefore affects more people and “things” like animals, plants, the environment, etc. We can really only get big regional metrics outdoor.
On the flipside, indoor affects humans more directly, I mean the one in your own house should matter to you more than anyone else! But also in crowded public indoor places, somehow it more directly matters to the human life in terms of work efficiency, long term health. While we often think of pollution being outside, inside are often the most threats. The weird particle gases emitting from gasing out vinyl floors, plastic components and softeners in modern tapestry, multi-component modern furniture, toxic colors, the list is endless. We all know that over time people get more allergies and such things. Indoor AQ matters A LOT!
Still my personal conclusion is that Outdoor AQ has an edge, potentially affecting the ecosystem and often if the sensor is good enough (scientific grade or enterpise grade) it can reflect the air that 2500 humans breathe and not just the ones indoor.
But for my all reasons given, the edge is not so big. 60% outdoor, 40% indoor.
I understand your measured and cautious response and I respect that. I can believe such honesty much more than someone talking the issues away.
I know that such things can never solve all issues and to some degree an app wil only be an app for hunting points. I an nore excited now to see the sensor related tokenomics and can already say that this will be more my route than the app.
In relation to indoor and outdoor, it depends on where you spend the most time. Do you work outside or inside? If you consider outside, and especially in the city or industrial areas, you would be concerned with SO2, NOx, O3, PM2.5, PM10, CO, VOC.
Whereas if you spend most of the time inside, especially if you work in office buildings. You would be more concerned with PM2.5, PM10, CO, VOC, Formaldehyde, CO2, Lux, dB, Temperature, Humidity and thermal comfort.
You may ask where does formaldehyde and VOC come from, well these come from emissions from carpets, paints, chipboard and MDF furniture, plastics, etc. Basically everything man made which serves as furniture.
e.g. SO2, NOx, O3, Formaldehyde, VOC, PM2.5, PM10, Temp, Humidity, Thermal Comfort, CO2, CO. These are the standard measures for most building rating standards.
So the thing is, this is one of the questions I was looking forward to, because it is one of my excitment points. Then again sadly I can not be super precise on this (I would totally love to spill the tea here and go on a ramble) because it eats into the part of NDA’s and “secret product lin-up” yada yada bla bla
I can answer your question tho:
YES!*
*I will add a point you did not even touch and say:
Capability is like you touched upon of course more metrics to read. But also I would put other topics in there like device connectivity options, smart home integration and direct utility (aka having a screen with info or using other protocols like zigbee, matter or MQTT)
I conclude:
I can not say at this point yet how, what, which, and such things, I can only say something is being cooked. Obviously it will be part of a reveal only when the “potential” device is about to go in sale or be announced. In theory, cause hey I am not spilling any tea here.
Excuse my ignorance, but is who is using this environmental data? How will Ambient become profitable. I guess in my mind the main people using this data would be governments and do you anticipate them using blockchain to ingest this data? Or am I missing a whole reason for this type of network?
No problem, it is not ignorance my friend, you are asking an absolute valid and important question!
So while governments are a “prime example” to use and be a customer, the reality is that this is more on “the longer run” especially for governmental entities. To be blunt they are super slow to pick up and make their move, on the other hand we get many regulations (EU and US) at end of year and early 2025 that basically force them to be active in this sector.
Now the real “juice” is more in the open economy, enterprise grade business and international organizations in the short term. We expect (sorry can not yet disclose more) earlier business with other entities than purely governmental.
Hotels, tourism, healthcare are prime early targets.
To your point about anticipating business deal uptakes, look the tech is working on chain, but of course a big traditional company gets a deal upfront in fiat. This will be converted only for the network to on chain assets. Upfront they get a tailored contract how it serves best to them. If that is via routed and wired payments and online registry, or if they prefer also with an ink signature.
The business customer will get it like he wants.
But also the API will be public self serving, imagine it like swiping a credit card, getting credits and using them to pull data from network.
That customer would have the feeling of a purely fiat transaction with all the required bills and taxes, and the outcome on other side “for the network only” would be translated to on chain assets.
Hello everyone. I am the Community Lead from Ambient Network and we have a NEW LIMITED TIME cool Token Airdrop Sweepstake Raffle Campaign running on Gleam-io!
Call to action: Should we include Jupiter Tokens also next time???
Campaign details:
10 day runtime,
entries via actions
(like-follow-retweet on twitter, visit website, visit Youtube, join Discord, follow on Medium, define SOL wallet address etc.) for raffle tickets.
Contest is open worldwide
Total Prizepool 4000 Ambient Tokens on Solana
16 winners random draw total = 1x 1000 tokens, 5x 400 Tokens, 10x 100 Tokens.
Started: 20 minutes ago Ends: Ends: July 2024 - 11:59 PM CET
This is the “Short Burst Alpha” Campaign, look forward to the “Short Burst Beta” (and more) Campaigns that will only run for a limited time. Multiple will be launched by Ambient Network in the coming months. Of course if you do not want to miss out, you also check out the ongoing longer term “Long Shot” Campaign that has far more tasks, and gets even more tasks each week! : https://gleam.io/FK0js/token-airdrop-growth-campaign-long-shot
Minimum Age for participation: 18 ~ Initial allowed login via: Discord, email, Google, Linkedin, X (Twitter) ~ User details asked: First + Last Name, Email, Date of Birth
Thank you for sharing your excitement with us! It’s fantastic to see such enthusiasm for the New Ambient Network and its integration with Solana. Your anticipation for the roadmap and the lite paper is contagious, and we’re all eager to see the innovative directions Luca Franchi and the Ambient Network Team will steer this project towards.
Your support and keen interest are what drive this community forward. Here’s to a future filled with breakthroughs and success!
Wait, here on Jupiter I need to do this in the Jupiter Cadet’s style:
Paws up for your purr-sitivity! It’s meow-velous to see your whiskers twitch with excitement for the New Ambient Network’s leap onto the Solana platform. Your tail is wagging with anticipation for the roadmap and lite paper, and we’re all curious cats ready to pounce on the innovative yarns Luca Franchi and the team will weave.
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Thank you for your kind words and interest in Ambient Network. The migration of the existing network and the update of tokenomics are indeed critical steps towards ensuring maximum participation and long-term sustainability of the project. I have to keep it general because all is planned, mapped out and part of a communication roadmap that will reveal all details only on release, but that is very soon. So I have to use super general language to not “spill the secret sauce” today, but it will come out very soon.
Here’s basic overview on the plan addressing these challenges:
We will release both, first the Ambient Token’s tokenomics, and then a specific Migration Plan that leverages the new Solana based system.
New Tokenomics:
Incentive Structures: Design tokenomics with incentive structures that reward long-term participation.
Token Supply Management: Mechanisms to manage token supply effectively, to promote scarcity and value appreciation over time.
Utility & Adoption: Ensure the token has multiple utilities within the ecosystem, driving demand and providing tangible benefits to users. Not just initially defined, but also build up over time and facilitated by governance vote (after full launch and initial build up)
Vesting & Allocations: Introduce vesting schedules and fair token allocations to align the interests of the community members and participants. This encourages a long-term commitment to the project’s success.
Transparency & Governance: Maintain transparency in token distribution and governance processes to build trust and encourage community involvement.
Migration Plan:
Assessment & Strategy: A thorough assessment of the current network infrastructure has been done in the last 4 month, key components and dependencies were identified. A migration strategy was developed that minimizes downtime and ensures data integrity.
Stakeholder Engagement: Different means of evaluation were done on current network participants to understand their needs and concerns. This helped tailor the migration process to ensure it aligns with their interests.
Technical Execution: We implement the migration in phases to manage risks effectively, streamline the process and reduce the potential for errors.
Testing & Validation: After each phase, rigorous testing will have to be done to validate the functionality and performance of the migrated network. This ensures that the network remains robust and reliable.
Communication: The biggest current challenge while having all in check is to maintain clear and continuous communication with all parties throughout the migration process after it started. This transparency should build trust and encourage participation.
By focusing on these aspects, the new tokenomics will lead into a migration plan that not only incentivizes immediate participation but also ensures that sensor owners are rewarded for their long-term commitment. The goal is to create a thriving ecosystem where the value of participation grows over time, aligning with the network’s mission to build the world’s largest decentralized environmental monitoring network.
Minimum Age for participation: 18 ~ Initial allowed login via: Discord, email, Google, Linkedin, X (Twitter) ~ User details asked: First + Last Name, Email, Date of Birth
It’s meow-velous to see your whiskers twitch with excitement for the New Ambient Network’s leap onto the Solana platform. Your tail is wagging with anticipation for the roadmap and lite paper, and we’re all curious cats ready to pounce on the innovative yarns Luca Franchi and the team will weave.
