oh waw, what about those low on finances but yet struggling to position best they can?
ASR will still continue
Reward for this qtrs will be January 2025
I am voting for this!
thatās why I said I disagree with these allocations. I will be truly disappointed if JUP team onboard suggestions that benefit multi-wallet farmers.
I think you are misunderstanding the proposal regarding DAO voters, so let me break it down for you.
Person 1 has 100 JUP
Person 2 has 1000 JUP
Person 1 has 1/10 of the voting power compared to person 2. For the sake of making this simple, letās say they receive 50% as ASR.
They both voted for 10 proposals. After ASR person 1 has 150 JUP and person 2 has 1500 JUP. The voting power relatively speaking stays the same, person 1 still has 1/10 of the voting power compared to person 2. This means that it does not matter how much JUP you have staked, the relative voting power stays the same.
Letās have another example.
Person 1 voted for 10 proposals and person 2 voted only 5.
After ASR, person 1 has 150 JUP and person 2 has 1250 JUP. So the voting power moves towards those who are voting on more proposals. Again, the amount of JUP staked does not favour bigger voters. ASR favours the more active voters.
Jupuary reward for DAO voters in this proposal has the same model as ASR. It does not favour bigger or smaller voters, it favours voters who have been more active.
When it comes to decentralising the DAO and voting. As jupuary injects 700M JUP to the market and roughly one third of it is expected to flow into DAO staking and voting ( see this post for more details ), the amount of staked JUP increases from 440M to 670M. This means that the current DAO voters have less power than before and thus Jupiter DAO becomes more decentralised.
What do you think, was this helpful?
Please see my previous post on this thread. The big players wonāt be receiving anything more than smaller ones. Itās the active voters who are being rewarded more. Did this help understanding the model any better?
lets not take this off topic, im afraid might use abnormal words which u wont be familiar with.
how come to recognize a person being farmer with that freaking 1000 wallets, dayum thats huge i dont think he can cope up with it, this is were consistency comes into action, transaction between few distinct months will exclude, talking of stakers ive seen 0.1 jup staked to make it unique wallets. so what i mean is you can stop them but anti methods can be utilized to circle those.
i remember last time jupuary1 pretty much few of them claimed the same. just because it was tiered base.
Thank you very much! (:
Yes it really is, and I appreciate that you can see the effort Iāve made with including all the feedback I received from over 300 comments!
in regards to your points of feedback:
- Yes but Iāve included jupSOL holders in the New Tokens & New Features Category. JLP IMO plays a much more important role in providing liquidity for Jupiter for the $850 Million pool, enabling Jupiter perps which is a significant revenue source for Jupiter.
- I included it since itās one of the more or less official Jupiter tokens and itās one memecoin. mockJUP on the other hand was a test token for the real JUP which could be claimed for free on a testing page. I am indifferent to wether itās included or not, I donāt see any issue either way.
- Liquidity Operators (LOās) are indeed (still) missing from the list, but I could include them still if anyone provides some good info and reasons as to why and how to include them. There are a few reasons for not having included them so far, mainly the following:
- The fact that these are professional users / partners
- I have limited data and insight into this data or their roles
- Iāve alternatively included the liquidity providers JLP holders
- Therefore I feel they might fall outside of the scope of Jupuary
But if you have any additional information about this or insight into this - please let me know in the comments.
Yes in other words, every JUP staker would get the same percentage wise on their total amount JUP voted.
I donāt know the total amount of votes, but the allocation would be 110,000,000 JUP divided by the total amount of votes, multiplied by the amount of votes of an individual staker.
According to this post, the amount of total votes by end of the year is estimated around 4B. The current number is 3,2B.
@Jupumut as well as @NightOwl and @TabiZzFR and @DazP seem to be missing an important point here, which Iāve made repeatedly in other topics but you may not have yet seen this, so I will post it here.
To be clear: my proposal includes the filtering out of nearly all farmers through deduplication and anti-Syibl strategies.
There is therefore no need to arbitrarily and unfairly exclude many of the legitimate 1,419,121 users.
In fact, it would be a great mistake to exclude so many legitimate users as it would cause a huge amount of negative sentiment among the community as well as negative (social)media attention.
Most of all, itās unfair and unnecessary to exclude legitimate users.
Meow has made it clear in speaking and in writing that deduplication will be used.
The team can use timestamps, browser fingerprints, IP addresses, behavioral analysis, transaction patterns, transfers between wallets and many more deduplication methods to exclude farmers.
It was mentioned 20+ times that the proposal is for adjusted volume, to perform further deduplication and anti-Sybil measures through Blockchain Analysis. Using these tool the team can can easily find clusters of 1,000ās of inorganic bot wallets which can be identified as āfarmingā. It might be more constructive to ask a question about something if it needs to be clarified, rather than falling into repetition, so we donāt keep talking in circles.
Yes so 110,000,000 / 3,200,000,000 = 0.034375 JUP airdrop per vote cast.
Or 343 JUP for a staker with 1000 JUP who cast 10 votes = 10000 votes.
(Addition: This is an estimation based on 3.2B total votes and 110M allocation for JUP Stakers. This is part of a non-official community proposal. Any final numbers are pending).
I have been reading the discussions without participating and must say Iām very impressed by the time and effort that must have gone in to this. Iām one if the 1% top stakers and even if i know my total % of total JUP will decrease Iām now more positive towards the drop then previously.
Good job!
So, if in your opinion, 350M tokens (currently valued at approximately $357 million dollars) isnāt enough for a marketing campaign to attract new users, then I have nothing more to add.
Let me repeatā$350 million for a marketing campaign.
If thatās not sufficient, then perhaps it would be better to consider canceling Jupuary and finding a more efficient way to onboard new users.
This was covered in the initial topic.
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Yes sir.
Stating the obvious here, but for someone reading this, itās good to keep in mind that the numbers live and we donāt know the snapshot date. Also this is not official jupuary proposal so things may look different.
A fun one to speculate though.
I have already explained the purpose of Jupuary. Marketing is just one of them.
Itās a balanced and community-refined distribution proposal which is inclusive and comprehensive, providing sufficient decentralisation and JUP distribution.
The team has been clear about the purpose. The purpose of Jupuary is:
- Bringing another 2.1 Billion of the 10B JUP token supply into circulation
- Distributing JUP to the millions of Jupiter users in a decentralised fashion
- Incentivising (not rewarding) the community to engage more with Jupiter
- Guerilla marketing method to create huge hype and (social)media attention
- Aligning with Jupiterās growth mindset and inclusive community strategy
If you have a problem with JUP Tokenomics and with Jupuary, then why are you a JUP holder? Iāve only seen you criticise, complain and share your entitlement on this forum, in addition to behaving mean to, emotional, aggressive, dismissive of other community members. Meow made it very clear, there is no place for mean people in the Jupiter community. If all you do is just complaining and feeling entitled as a staker, you might as well explore another project which better aligns with your personal values and preferences.
Itās simple. ASR is for JUP Stakers. Jupuary is for community growth.
This post is about how to allocate and distribute 700M JUP to the community.
Iām very impressed by the time and effort that must have gone in to this. Iām one if the 1% top stakers
WOW! Thatās amazing! Thank you very much for your feedback!
When you had just $20 for example you could have reached $1000 in trading volume with 50 - 100 trades over the last year. There would be an extra bonus for using New Tokens and New Jupiter Features.